From jon@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk Mon Jan 10 13:49:57 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk ([212.104.129.89]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Co7QD-0008Rk-Cn for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:49:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221E34066FE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22658-01-10 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [82.152.43.82] (unknown [82.152.43.82]) by mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5F4065FC for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:49:53 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <41E2F94C.2070506@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:53:16 +0000 From: Jon Reeves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban Subject: [lojban-beginners] Alternative learning techniques Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk X-archive-position: 983 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jon@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi rodo I happened across an article on using the Sims (computer game) to help people learn a foreign language (http://llt.msu.edu/vol9num1/purushotma/default.html) and was wondering if there were any alternative lojban resources I've been using logflash for a while, but it's not terribly motivating... A couple of years ago, during a previous attempt at learning lojban I toyed with the idea of creating lojban language files for alpha centauri - a little ambitious, but would have been very useful considering the inordinate amount of time i spent playing it. Are there any lojban localised games/applications out there? Creating a localisation for firefox, for instance, should be fairly easy to do? Also what about multimedia? I found a brief audio file on the website, but more of this would be really good to listen to during the daily commute I know there was a conversation a while ago about lojban software for PDAs, but it didnt really go anywhere. Any developments in this area? I have a little vocab program that i've done and was thinking about maybe turning into a full logflash program for PDAs but don't want to duplicate something that has already been done co'o mu'e mi'e djon.