From betsemes@hotmail.com Fri Feb 04 11:49:33 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bay23-dav12.bay23.hotmail.com ([64.4.22.192] helo=hotmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cx9SP-0005Oq-4D for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:49:33 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:49:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.218.132.157 by BAY23-DAV12.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:48:12 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.218.132.157] X-Originating-Email: [betsemes@hotmail.com] X-Sender: betsemes@hotmail.com From: "Betsemes" To: References: <20050204155114.14544.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo brivla valsi Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:01:19 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2005 19:49:00.0425 (UTC) FILETIME=[9262F790:01C50AF2] X-archive-position: 1108 X-Approved-By: betsemes@hotmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: betsemes@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is going to be confusing. Up to now, Lojban texts have been using the "old lo", now they are going to use "old lo" or "new lo" depending on whether or not people accept or not the changes maybe due to stubborness, or because they are unaware of the change. For beginners like me, this is very confusing by the time of translating Lojban texts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Llambías" To: Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo brivla valsi > > --- Betsemes wrote: > > > See http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=How+to+use+xorlo > > > for more information. > > > > > So no quantifier assumed for "lo". Let's see if I understand it clearer. > > Does this mean now that "lo" could mean "zero or more"? > > No, that's a quantifier. > > It only means that a claim about lo broda is not a claim about > how many brodas are or do something. So a claim that brivla > are words (lo brivla cu valsi) is not a claim about how many > brivla are words. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > >