From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Mon Feb 07 13:08:39 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41904.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CyG7b-0008Ho-8p for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:08:39 -0800 Received: (qmail 94279 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2005 21:08:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20050207210808.94277.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:08:08 PST Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "x" sound To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: <537d06d0050207123739bdc096@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 1118 X-Approved-By: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners --- Philip Newton wrote: > (As for me, my German /x/ is more of an [X] -- voiceless *uvular* > fricative -- but YMMV. I think [X] would also be acceptable for Lojban > /x/ since it cannot be confused with another sound.) If we follow strictly what CLL says, /x/ is [x], and /'/ can be "any unvoiced fricative other than those already used in Lojban", so [X] could be a possible realization of /'/. I think the rule for /'/ is a bit crazy though. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250