From mikevdg@gulik.co.nz Sat Feb 26 20:33:45 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from genamics.blastula.net ([205.214.85.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1D5G7k-0005Ka-Li for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:33:45 -0800 Received: from [203.184.11.227] (helo=gulik.co.nz) by genamics.blastula.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1D5G7j-0005dF-Lr for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:33:44 +1300 Message-ID: <42214DAC.8070307@gulik.co.nz> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:33:48 +1300 From: Michael van der Gulik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040216 Debian/1.6.x.1-10 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: .eosai ko viska le ckule jibri be mi References: <421EA747.80406@gulik.co.nz> <537d06d0050225032046d7f713@mail.gmail.com> <421F8831.5060601@gulik.co.nz> <422083BE.3030806@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <422083BE.3030806@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - genamics.blastula.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - chain.digitalkingdom.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gulik.co.nz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-archive-position: 1175 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Jon Reeves wrote: > .ui ki'e la filip. > > The la seems to be omitted a lot - i don't think it is optional though? > :-). Thanks for pointing it out. The "la" is probably omitted because it isn't used in English. It would be weird to say "Thanks, the Philip". I'm still getting used to it. I know that "la" just means that the following is a name. I've just read that "coi djan" is the same as "coi la djan". That feels weird, but you get that when learning a new language. It took me ages to accept that "lekker" really was an authentic Dutch word. BTW, is it permissable and/or correct to use punctuation and numerals? E.g. {lu'o 3 lo gerku cu batci mi} or {mi cusku "hello"} rather than the typographically verbose: {mi cusku zoi .glic hello .glic} Mikevdg.