From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 02 06:08:22 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D6UWT-0000Fq-Ko for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:08:21 -0800 Received: from mail.datair.com ([209.119.40.20] helo=temp.datair.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1D6UWN-0000FX-E4 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:08:21 -0800 Received: by mail.datair.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <1TBTVCS3>; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 08:07:44 -0600 Message-ID: From: Scott Weller To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: how to say "learn how to swear in Lojban" Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 08:07:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Matt Arnold wrote: >I'm making a promotional poster for a Lojban event at a science fiction >convention, which I would like to be a bilingual English/Lojban poster. I >want to say (among other things) "learn how to swear in Lojban." I tried >{ko cilre fi lo zu'o mabla sepi'o ma bau la lojban}. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 1187 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: ScottW@datair.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Matt Arnold wrote: >I'm making a promotional poster for a Lojban event at a science fiction >convention, which I would like to be a bilingual English/Lojban poster. I >want to say (among other things) "learn how to swear in Lojban." I tried >{ko cilre fi lo zu'o mabla sepi'o ma bau la lojban}. Strictly speaking, I think, in the context of such a poster, "learn how to swear in Lojban" is not really a command. Isn't it more of an abbreviation of "(If you come to this event you will) learn how to swear in Lojban"? Of course, I have *no* suggestion for how to express this in Lojban, so maybe I should just shut up . --sw