From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 02 11:42:25 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D6Zjl-0005J8-7r for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:42:25 -0800 Received: from new.e-mol.com ([65.169.135.18] helo=mole.e-mol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.44) id 1D6Zji-0005It-PW for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:42:25 -0800 Received: from mail.123.net (new.e-mol.com [65.169.135.18]) by mole.e-mol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j22JfpTd024623 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 14:41:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 14:41:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200503021941.j22JfpTd024623@mole.e-mol.com> To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org From: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Learning Lojban In-Reply-To: <20050302175510.99724.qmail@web60509.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050302175510.99724.qmail@web60509.mail.yahoo.com> X-Priority: 3 X-From: mattarn@mail.123.net X-Originating-IP: [209.220.229.254] Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Ryan, thank you for your interest in this. This page: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html has a lot of good resources that you can read and explore. My personal favorite reference is the Level 0 book which I've created a handy-dandy PDF of that you can download from this page: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Introductory+Learning+Material After you've read enough of these to have a basic understanding of how to string together a simple sentence, you can start on vocabulary. If you have a Palm OS pocket computer you might be able to run a quizzing and drilling program that I have found to be indispensable, SuperMemo. Another great tool is the Lojban-to-English-gloss translator, jbofi'e. http://www.lojban.org/jboski/ Be warned that the output of that program was baffling to me, previous to reading the basic introduction of how the language works, but do not be intimidated by it! Just put it off until you're ready or ask me or one of us to explain. Among constructed languages, Lojban seems to be exceptional in its community and learning tools. Please do not hesitate to ask for help on this list as it is very responsive. -epkat [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.3 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-archive-position: 1189 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mattarn@123.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Hi Ryan, thank you for your interest in this. This page: http://www.lojban.org/beginners.html has a lot of good resources that you can read and explore. My personal favorite reference is the Level 0 book which I've created a handy-dandy PDF of that you can download from this page: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Introductory+Learning+Material After you've read enough of these to have a basic understanding of how to string together a simple sentence, you can start on vocabulary. If you have a Palm OS pocket computer you might be able to run a quizzing and drilling program that I have found to be indispensable, SuperMemo. Another great tool is the Lojban-to-English-gloss translator, jbofi'e. http://www.lojban.org/jboski/ Be warned that the output of that program was baffling to me, previous to reading the basic introduction of how the language works, but do not be intimidated by it! Just put it off until you're ready or ask me or one of us to explain. Among constructed languages, Lojban seems to be exceptional in its community and learning tools. Please do not hesitate to ask for help on this list as it is very responsive. -epkat lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >Hi, >My name is Ryan and I am interested in learning the >logical language Lojban. I was given this e-mail >address as a possible source for learning more. Any >help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. >Ryan _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com