From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 02 11:49:10 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D6ZqI-0005Oc-IW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:49:10 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D6ZqI-0005OX-GM for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:49:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:49:10 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: how to say "learn how to swear in Lojban" Message-ID: <20050302194910.GI17705@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 1190 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:07:42AM -0600, Scott Weller wrote: > Matt Arnold wrote: > > >I'm making a promotional poster for a Lojban event at a science > >fiction convention, which I would like to be a bilingual > >English/Lojban poster. I want to say (among other things) "learn > >how to swear in Lojban." I tried {ko cilre fi lo zu'o mabla > >sepi'o ma bau la lojban}. > > > Strictly speaking, I think, in the context of such a poster, > "learn how to swear in Lojban" is not really a command. ko is not a "commond" in the strictest English sense of that word. It is any form of request. > Isn't it more of an abbreviation of "(If you come to this event > you will) learn how to swear in Lojban"? You could view it that way, but as an advertisement it is also saying that it wants people to do so. > Of course, I have *no* suggestion for how to express this in > Lojban, so maybe I should just shut up . That's because Causals Are Hard. Or at least hard to get used to. Something like: lo nu do vitke le nunpenmi cu rinka lo nu do binxo co kakne lo nu malcku bau la .lojban. As an aside, ka'erbi'o should probably be in jbovlaste, but I have no idea how to gloss it in to English. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/