From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Mar 10 11:53:27 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1D9Tip-0001rL-Jq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:53:27 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1D9Tie-0001ql-Mb for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:53:27 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so895809wri for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:52:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=L+A8vDHUsLy5Ef75m5fpYvBt4xyauwB9oh7oroi9f6QDjt4LuohVG7MitqskCWzd7wHATaeVG3xZszgMh1BGrc2h1kVbvI8wELg42r+s8HgzfELKbuqYKYDgMrTCIFgHija0/Jr7pfAYy8WVjwmJSGP+j81+As62l5sASscm4fM= Received: by 10.54.10.39 with SMTP id 39mr1964426wrj; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.35.76 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:52:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12d58c1605031011522ea2a83b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:52:44 -0500 From: Adam COOPER To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Moon River In-Reply-To: <200503101924.j2AJOGTd028924@mole.e-mol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII References: <20050310164648.65243.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> <200503101733.j2AHXTTd005951@mole.e-mol.com> <537d06d005031009534bfb9f0d@mail.gmail.com> <200503101836.j2AIaWTd022430@mole.e-mol.com> <12d58c1605031011021ada0ba8@mail.gmail.com> <200503101924.j2AJOGTd028924@mole.e-mol.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:24:16 -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > Thank you. {doi la lunra poi rirxe} has brevity that the last example lacked. > But is it acceptable to nest relative clauses as the following does? > doi la lunra poi rirxe > noi se minli ganra > "Oh 'moon', specifically such that it is a river, > which incidentally is number-of-distance-units-type-of being broad" > Is the last clause referring to the addressee or the river, and does it make a difference? > Should I use {po'u rirxe}? > -epkat [...] Content analysis details: (-2.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 1223 X-Approved-By: adamgarrigus@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:24:16 -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > Thank you. {doi la lunra poi rirxe} has brevity that the last example lacked. > But is it acceptable to nest relative clauses as the following does? > doi la lunra poi rirxe > noi se minli ganra > "Oh 'moon', specifically such that it is a river, > which incidentally is number-of-distance-units-type-of being broad" > Is the last clause referring to the addressee or the river, and does it make a difference? > Should I use {po'u rirxe}? > -epkat You can link relative clauses to the same sumti with {zi'e}. but I don't think restrictive relative clauses are the way to go here, as the song doesn't postulate that of all the things called Moon, it is referring to the one that is a wide river, so... doi la lunra noi rirxe gi'e *minli li za'u pa fo lo ni ganra I reckon I got that last bit wrong. mu'o mi'e .adam.