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From: Adam COOPER <adamgarrigus@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nu fanva zoi gy. I pledge allegiance... .gy
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> Oops, I meant {ca'e}, not {ce'a}. {ca'e} marks the sentence as a
> performative, which I think is what you want here. You're not
> just describing a situation, you are pledging/forfeiting by saying
> those words.
> 
> mu'o mi'e xorxes

Hmmmmm... I'm not so sure. A promise of allegiance does not constitute
actual allegiance. A set of actions constitutes allegiance. I think
that's built into the notion of promise/nupre; the promise defines a
series of actions or a pattern of behavior to be performed in the
future. As for forfeit, I don't forfeit by saying "I forfeit", I
forfeit by removing my staff from the lands in question, informing the
tenants that I can & will no longer collect their rents, stuff like
that.

What actually happens is that I pledge allegiance, I actually forfeit
lands, & then later I break my pledge.

.oi ro'o stedu be mi zo'o .i mu'o mi'e .adam.