From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 21 02:30:55 2005
Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:30:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44)
	id 1DDKBS-0007YB-GB
	for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:30:54 -0800
Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.194])
	by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44)
	id 1DDKBC-0007Xy-Rh
	for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:30:54 -0800
Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1006034rne
        for <lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:30:37 -0800 (PST)
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
        s=beta; d=gmail.com;
        h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references;
        b=kmUOw6t9d/pWiyOi7eVi1uA4YDn+ObhyEOZTGjw9wSdIBMxk8PLVThlnRY+j8axeDD7oi/Dmp/+CTlIwy4fXdQidMZyyxSSZr5u5WnDfj2GzwxxnfdTSw+Wk8qyYmpOoyT+LzmnoL6C+5S2au5kyTYfUUcSci8mnW2AW8IOmcA4=
Received: by 10.38.66.77 with SMTP id o77mr1437744rna;
        Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:30:37 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.38.208.61 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:30:37 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <537d06d00503210230313ae52e@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:30:37 +0100
From: Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban is not Vulcan or Borg
In-Reply-To: <20050321073703.GO29806@chain.digitalkingdom.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
References: <200503182133.j2ILXvTd017432@mole.e-mol.com>
	 <20050318214702.GR26000@chain.digitalkingdom.org>
	 <423B563B.1050907@gulik.co.nz>
	 <537d06d00503192224569e90fb@mail.gmail.com>
	 <423E562B.7070505@gulik.co.nz>
	 <20050321073703.GO29806@chain.digitalkingdom.org>
X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--)
X-archive-position: 1282
X-Approved-By: philip.newton@gmail.com
X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org
Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org
X-original-sender: philip.newton@gmail.com
Precedence: bulk
Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org
X-list: lojban-beginners

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:37:03 -0800, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:05:47PM +1200, Michael van der Gulik wrote:
> > Philip Newton wrote:
> >
> > ki'a mi na jimpe .i do na djuno ma poi valsi
> 
> zo .u'i .i la .filip. cu zgagau zo .u'i se pi'o zo ki'a
> 
> > .i xu do na jimpe du'u smuni lu .u'i li'u
> 
> la .filip. go'i .i ku'i zdile cusku

la .camgusmis. cu drani ciksi tu'a mi

> > .i lu ma'oste li'u lujvo ma
> 
> zoi zoi cmavo list zoi

ji'a lu ma'oste li'u cu lujvo fo lu cmavo liste li'u .i ji'a lu
gi'uste li'u .a lu gimste li'u cu lujvo fo lu gismu liste li'u

ni'o mi nelcu'a zo gi'uste mu'i lo du'u lo te morna be fi zo gi'uste
cu smimau lo te morna be fi zo ma'oste lo te morna be fi zo gimste

...which is probably bad Lojban, too, and I wasn't sure which word was
appropriate.

What I was trying to say is that I use {ma'oste} for the cmavo list
and {gi'uste} for the gismu list... even though {gimste} is the
canonical form for the lujvo, I prefer {gi'uste} because its
shape/form is more closely parallel to that of {ma'oste} (which has no
alternative with a CVC initial rafsi).

mu'o mi'e .filip.
-- 
Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>