From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 26 15:31:48 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DQYaq-0001h7-D8 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:31:48 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.205]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQYak-0001gn-AQ for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:31:48 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so91099wra for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:31:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UFCOzm2gLXiNtL8acrUx7n/usmopqUebM635KtcCXdTNYM1Qg4y+MhLVlVK62GVOQ40yQWq5OwDzrG2HHVSDnPTWmqCzJtOYiU9Uw5C1RqmkZqu++nzhsYVpPM+sF64kXF2OF3UfMx8HWJJfqv1wbfezwuDb+mS9chQ/ZTEsWiY= Received: by 10.54.121.16 with SMTP id t16mr183846wrc; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605042615314c9f1bd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:31:07 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban] Re: {xu} - question. In-Reply-To: <426EAB10.9060805@gulik.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050426110430.84090.qmail@web32115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d175605042605236a63e04@mail.gmail.com> <426EAB10.9060805@gulik.co.nz> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1389 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 4/26/05, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > mi cilre fi la lojban de'i cabdei You need a sumti after {de'i}, so it would be {le cabdei}, but I don't think that's right either because {de'i} tags a date (i.e. a number, the name of a day), for example, {li 2005 pi'e 4 pi'e 26 cu detri le cabdei}. So I would say {ca le cabdei}. Someone suggested a convention like {de'i li ni'u pa}, "date -1", for yesterday, and {de'i li ma'u pa}, "date +1", for tomorrow, so {de'i li ma'u no}, "date 0" could work for today. >.i za'a zo xu selma'o lei selma'o UI zo xu cmavo le selma'o be zo ui > .i xu (ro da poi selma'o UI) lo valsi cu lidne da > > Probably very wrong lojban. What I meant to say is: > I've learned something new today. I see that "xu" is part of selma'o UI. > Are all members of selma'o UI used in postfix notation? (i.e. do they > follow the word that they modify?) Yes, they always attach to the preceding word. At the start of the utterance they modify the whole bridi. mu'o mi'e xorxes