From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 11 13:18:42 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 11 May 2005 13:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DVxfG-0008Cu-Qh for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:18:42 -0700 Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.168.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DVxfB-0008Cm-2n for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:18:42 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.9.30.130?) (bwebber000@ameritech.net@155.139.3.14 with plain) by smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2005 20:18:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:18:28 -0400 From: Bruce Webber To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sumti-raising Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200505112007.j4BK74Td032569@mole.e-mol.com> References: <569243df050510145878111971@mail.gmail.com> <200505102226.j4AMQ7Td007219@mole.e-mol.com> <42813D66.8020108@gulik.co.nz> <569243df0505101720268137a@mail.gmail.com> <569243df050510181031e1f553@mail.gmail.com> <200505112007.j4BK74Td032569@mole.e-mol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1450 X-Approved-By: bruce@brucewebber.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: bruce@brucewebber.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners --On Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:07 PM -0400 Matt Arnold wrote: > The phrase "sumti-raising" frequently appears throughout the word list. > What is this? For an example: djica: x1 desires/wants x2 (event/state) > for purpose x3 [if desire is an object, this is sumti-raising; use tu'a > in x2 (or use lujvo = po'edji)] -epkat Matt, Perhaps this page from "Lojban for Beginners" will help: mi'e brus. -- Bruce Webber bruce@brucewebber.com http://www.mountainvision.net