From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 11 13:48:34 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 11 May 2005 13:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DVy8A-0000B7-I0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:48:34 -0700 Received: from new.e-mol.com ([65.169.135.18] helo=mole.e-mol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.50) id 1DVy85-0000AM-RX for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:48:34 -0700 Received: from mail.123.net (nobody@new.e-mol.com [65.169.135.18]) by mole.e-mol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j4BKlwTd003511 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:47:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:47:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200505112047.j4BKlwTd003511@mole.e-mol.com> To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org From: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sumti-raising In-Reply-To: References: <569243df050510145878111971@mail.gmail.com> <200505102226.j4AMQ7Td007219@mole.e-mol.com> <42813D66.8020108@gulik.co.nz> <569243df0505101720268137a@mail.gmail.com> <569243df050510181031e1f553@mail.gmail.com> <200505112007.j4BK74Td032569@mole.e-mol.com> X-Priority: 3 X-From: mattarn@mail.123.net X-Originating-IP: [209.220.229.254] Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 1451 X-Approved-By: mattarn@123.net X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mattarn@123.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ki'e ku'i le pluta ku spofu -la epkat lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >--On Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:07 PM -0400 Matt Arnold >wrote: >> The phrase "sumti-raising" frequently appears throughout the word list. >> What is this? For an example: djica: x1 desires/wants x2 (event/state) >> for purpose x3 [if desire is an object, this is sumti-raising; use tu'a >> in x2 (or use lujvo = po'edji)] -epkat > >Matt, > >Perhaps this page from "Lojban for Beginners" will help: > > > >mi'e brus. > >-- >Bruce Webber >bruce@brucewebber.com >http://www.mountainvision.net _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com