From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue May 31 11:09:00 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 31 May 2005 11:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DdBAi-0000uI-0W for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:09:00 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DdBAh-0000uB-NW for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:08:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:08:59 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: seldetri Message-ID: <20050531180859.GL21667@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <4299DD5E.8030105@yandex.ru> <20050531022313.GT21667@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <429C3694.9040006@yandex.ru> <20050531145715.GF21667@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <429C8FD4.8060607@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <429C8FD4.8060607@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 1483 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:24:52PM +0400, Aleksej R. Serdyukov wrote: > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >>>>.i ma cu tadji bo cusku be lu le pixra be zo'e ku poi seldetri > >>>>zo'e li'u ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Am I right that this is ungrammatical > >>>>for {lo pixra}? > >>> > >>> > >>>What? > >>> > >>>The sentence is grammatical. What is it you're wondering > >>>about? > >> > >>The question was - how to say (shortly) "the picture of ... is > >>dated ..."? > > Ahem, sorry, forgot to answer your one. > > >No, the question was "Is this sentence grammatical?". My > >question is, which part of the sentence bothers you? > > > >The way to say that is "tu'a le pixra be da cu se detri de", for > >some da and de. > > I mean that... > > {mi ba do} means "I exist after you exist", right? s/ba/balvi/ Arguments still regularily erupt over this issue; some are of the opinion that *only* events can be situated in time, not objects. > Then doesn't it mean for a picture to be {seldetri} that it exists > at the date? See above. That's why I used tu'a. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/