From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 08 16:17:16 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Dg9nP-0002A0-S4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:17:15 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Dg9nP-00029t-By for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:17:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:17:15 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zvati Message-ID: <20050608231715.GG15659@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20050608204646.GD15659@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d1756050608135842062873@mail.gmail.com> <20050608210056.GE15659@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560506081422399a5088@mail.gmail.com> <20050608220428.GF15659@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d175605060816104fb25198@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d175605060816104fb25198@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 1501 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:10:07PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > On 6/8/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 06:22:47PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > > On 6/8/05, Robin Lee Powell > > > wrote: > > > > > > > zvati is: > > > > > > > > x1 (object/event) is at/attending/present at x2 > > > > (event/location) > > > > > > > > Events are situated in time. > > > > > > In time and space, like every other spatio-temporal object. An > > > event has a duration (which can be specified with ze'a) and a > > > spatial extension (specifiable with ve'a). It also has a > > > position in time (specifiable with ca) and a position in space > > > (specifiable with bu'u). > > > > Yes. This was *precisely* my point when I sad "ca or bu'u as > > appropriate". > > I don't understand. ca/cabna is for the situation in time, > bu'u/zvati for the situation in space. ca does not correspond to > zvati. I read zvati as being about both time *and* space. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/