From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 20 11:43:26 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DkREz-00062a-Rj for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:43:25 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DkREy-00062T-OY for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:43:25 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so840262wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MeL4CfrEEw4mtEjITVpRZamYsn9Ub2u/5tiQsTtupOwBR8gO1tTyvbhkL4Xw5HoVA8igIojk7gDrzAQRcbnjAxGhI9KvbGzCZo1u1/1M75cbr7ZPAPbafvP57RfyZz19wS1KRTg+QHPJdIxWTdrEgHSWbXgCYKr9Jm+kROIKRGM= Received: by 10.54.96.10 with SMTP id t10mr1119575wrb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.29 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c16050620114311a1f50d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:43:23 -0400 From: Adam COOPER To: Lojban beginners list Subject: [lojban-beginners] "by standard" "under conditions" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3249_11758550.1119293003673" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 1525 X-Approved-By: adamgarrigus@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_3249_11758550.1119293003673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi ro do I have a bear of a time with two of the more common "trailing" places of=20 gismu, places labeled "by standard xn" and "under conditions xn". Do=20 abstractions belong in there? Objects? I suppose examples of such gismu wit= h=20 all their places filled would be ideal, if anyone's game. Thanks in advance= . mu'o mi'e adam ------=_Part_3249_11758550.1119293003673 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi ro do

I have a bear of a time with two of the more common "trailing" pl= aces of gismu, places labeled "by standard xn" and "under conditi= ons xn". Do abstractions belong in there? Objects? I suppose examples of such gismu with all their places filled would be ideal, if anyone's game. Thanks in advance.

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