From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 22 11:41:51 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DlAAZ-0004uT-OE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:51 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DlAAX-0004uK-HT for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:51 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so21513wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K5feg04jbZEV2WUvheO3YtnWxChRNbWe3ivITTYsc5IQs6QquUooe3DZ3+4HgWYjXH2i5QzzXe2v4Fkuyc/XaZj3DFR+yzJsmn0O5jgr8Xp3BhkHjpaOxZa96nJ09iqpgj/OR9SgdMkWXSR12anYuWJiPYV1zlGf3Yenn8ikZZg= Received: by 10.54.40.48 with SMTP id n48mr649043wrn; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.68.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605062211413a5f93a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:45 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo nonce In-Reply-To: <42B9226D.2060407@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B9226D.2060407@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1534 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/22/05, Aleksej R. Serdyukov wrote: > Why isn't "nonce" listed in the dictionaries? Because it's not a gismu, it's a (somewhat rare) English word. :) It means "for the present occasion". So a nonce-word is a word used just for the occasion. > Does it mean "non"+"ce"? > > If I create a word that really should be a standard lujvo, is it nonce? If you create it just for the occasion and not meant to be a permanent word of the language, it is nonce. > Should every occasion (or I think I forgot the correct word) of the word > be marked with {za'e}, or only the first one? If you keep using it, it will stop being nonce and it will become a part of the word stock of the language. mu'o mi'e xorxes