From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 21 08:03:33 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1DvcaD-0007we-Nj for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:03:33 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Dvca3-0007wV-HT for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:03:33 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so278264wra for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:03:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AbqbN/os0pacZsMv716ZIY2LOq7FCgm/pH+cCaSjMGoMOwrg02qcz2aRAAYqfLh053aSIx35NFaitXiW7/4MaCPmhSnNmhV1LpjXzrgrvJyiuiiPZ+dXYHu4EJ17P2r1+vFtKHbMWedfSI8hUJ0I4gx+9lfMv7BIyczj5A6nJP4= Received: by 10.54.11.70 with SMTP id 70mr544688wrk; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.8 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ccdc753050721080265516eb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:02:55 -0400 From: "J. Scott Jewell" To: Lojban list Subject: [lojban-beginners] Lojban Breakfast Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20101_18497246.1121958175597" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 1609 X-Approved-By: thatskotkid@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: thatskotkid@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_20101_18497246.1121958175597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi rodo For no good reason at all, I'm trying to write the story of my morning in= =20 Lojban. All was going well until I got to breakfast. You see, I had bread= =20 and butter (or buttered bread, take your pick) and a doughnut, and I'm=20 having trouble expressing "bread with butter, and a doughnut" without it=20 sounding like I ate bread, butter, and a doughnut. I tried using gunma (wit= h=20 internal sumti for bread and butter), but that just sounds long and horribl= y=20 complicated, and also makes it hard to figure out just which terminators I= =20 need before I can start talking about the doughnut. Any ideas on how to=20 express "bread and butter" concisely? Thanks, - la cuncuxnas. ------=_Part_20101_18497246.1121958175597 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi rodo

For no good reason at all, I'm trying to write the story of my morning in Lojban.  All was going well until I got to breakfast.  You see, I had bread and butter (or buttered bread, take your pick) and a doughnut, and I'm having trouble expressing "bread with butter, and a doughnut" without it sounding like I ate bread, butter, and a doughnut.  I tried using gunma (with internal sumti for bread and butter), but that just sounds long and horribly complicated, and also makes it hard to figure out just which terminators I need before I can start talking about the doughnut.  Any ideas on how to express "bread and butter" concisely?

Thanks,

 - la cuncuxnas.
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