From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 21 09:04:32 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1DvdXE-0000Xb-MY for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:04:32 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1DvdXC-0000XT-3o for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:04:32 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i25so268909wra for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:04:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PnrWuNNKfQCoCsHIRn+UV/u0/8JYdMgYPrObXM2Wr1YxDzz+i+hPapsRDE/9bxQv54gKTQIcqRNh8nVmyHQmPiqp1NZvg1MvVKIoLThgPb7T4Cv1fD05SxYtbLjMN71k7cUQKrel79Vc1UWmxfT919m/W2X+NH0Q3meii7fg8yM= Received: by 10.54.120.12 with SMTP id s12mr579063wrc; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.75 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c1605072109041d7b605f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:04:08 -0400 From: Adam COOPER To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban Breakfast In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4304_10391043.1121961848322" References: X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1611 X-Approved-By: adamgarrigus@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_4304_10391043.1121961848322 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 7/21/05, Newton, Philip wrote: >=20 > I'd probably go for "joi" -- {mi citka lo nanba ku joi lo matne .e la=20 > donat} or the like. >=20 > mu'o mi'e .filip. >=20 Does {la donat} work there? I don't think you want a cmene. How about {lo m= e=20 zoi gy donut gy} ? Or something like {lo titla ke rasyseljukpa nanba} ? -----Original Message----- > *From:* lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org [mailto: > lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org] *On Behalf Of *J. Scott= =20 > Jewell > *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:03 PM > *To:* Lojban list > *Subject:* [SPAM Verdacht] - [lojban-beginners] Lojban Breakfast -=20 > Bayesian Filter detected spam >=20 > coi rodo >=20 > For no good reason at all, I'm trying to write the story of my morning in= =20 > Lojban. All was going well until I got to breakfast. You see, I had bread= =20 > and butter (or buttered bread, take your pick) and a doughnut, and I'm=20 > having trouble expressing "bread with butter, and a doughnut" without it= =20 > sounding like I ate bread, butter, and a doughnut. I tried using gunma (w= ith=20 > internal sumti for bread and butter), but that just sounds long and horri= bly=20 > complicated, and also makes it hard to figure out just which terminators = I=20 > need before I can start talking about the doughnut. Any ideas on how to= =20 > express "bread and butter" concisely? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > - la cuncuxnas. >=20 > ------=_Part_4304_10391043.1121961848322 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 7/21/05, Newton, Philip <Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de>= ; wrote:

I'd probably go for "joi" -- {mi citka lo nanba ku joi = lo=20 matne .e la donat} or the like.

mu'o mi'e=20 .filip.


Does {la donat} work there? I don't think you want a cmene. How about {lo me zoi gy donut gy} ? Or something like {lo titla ke rasyseljukpa nanba} ?

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 lojba= n-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org=20 [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org] On Behalf Of=20 J. Scott Jewell
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:03=20 PM
To: Lojban list
Subject: [SPAM Verdacht] -=20 [lojban-beginners] Lojban Breakfast - Bayesian Filter detected=20 spam

coi rodo

For no good reason at all, I'm t= rying=20 to write the story of my morning in Lojban.  All was going well unti= l I=20 got to breakfast.  You see, I had bread and butter (or buttered brea= d,=20 take your pick) and a doughnut, and I'm having trouble expressing "b= read with=20 butter, and a doughnut" without it sounding like I ate bread, butter= , and a=20 doughnut.  I tried using gunma (with internal sumti for bread and=20 butter), but that just sounds long and horribly complicated, and also mak= es it=20 hard to figure out just which terminators I need before I can start talki= ng=20 about the doughnut.  Any ideas on how to express "bread and but= ter"=20 concisely?

Thanks,

 - la=20 cuncuxnas.
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