From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 10 20:55:53 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E34Aa-0000yp-WB for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:55:53 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E34AX-0000yh-0j for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:55:52 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i13so306570wra for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:55:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=S3dAg45Duiy+WIAmR3u4zp1J+yDCIl5BEyavUuBQr8IXc7UYQhfbsPZdjyyKePsRM0Rfbpbf+hbJ7hZh67MiUfIIdPDFhhy48aZ5iPKpxLKrZva6hW11iu2l+WlK4TqvBLR3KXR8rtWCiMw5JHubvfvGA5vm0d2o7AcdiwZccHE= Received: by 10.54.34.33 with SMTP id h33mr941165wrh; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.8 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ccdc75305081020557ae053d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:55:47 -0400 From: "la cuncuxnas." To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: latest lujvo.txt file? In-Reply-To: <42FABC77.6020100@hypermetrics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_548_12878470.1123732547290" References: <42FABC77.6020100@hypermetrics.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 1674 X-Approved-By: thatskotkid@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: thatskotkid@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_548_12878470.1123732547290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi xal The latest lujvo list I could find was at=20 http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/NORALUJV.txt. As a side= =20 note, I'd recommend at least checking jbovlaste out; it's a pretty thorough= =20 dictionary-style reference, and I love the way all the info is organized. I think lujvo can exceed the limit of five. They're incorporating the=20 predicate relationships from at least two different gismu, and while some o= f=20 that information becomes irrelevant during the compounding, the stuff that= =20 needs to be there needs to be there, and so it stays in more spaces. Also, = I=20 believe if you just keep adding sumti to a selbri, they remain attached,=20 without really meaning anything. Or maybe they mean something unspecified. = I=20 don't really know how it works. Try running a sentence with too many=20 arguments through jbofi'e, and you'll see what I mean. I don't know a thing about LLG processes. Sorry. mu'omi'e cuncuxnas. On 8/10/05, Hal Fulton wrote: >=20 > 1. Where is the latest lujvo.txt file? Or is it totally > superseded somehow by jbovlaste (which I really haven't > looked at yet)? >=20 > 2. Also: Why does this file reference things like x6 and x7? > I thought there were never more than five normal sumti? >=20 > 3. Finally: Is there a process in place for making minor > corrections to these files? >=20 >=20 > Thanks much, > Hal >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------=_Part_548_12878470.1123732547290 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi xal

The latest lujvo list I could find was at http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/NORALUJV.txt.&nbs= p; As a side note, I'd recommend at least checking jbovlaste out; it's a pretty thorough dictionary-style reference, and I love the way all the info is organized.

I think lujvo can exceed the limit of five.  They're incorporating the predicate relationships from at least two different gismu, and while some of that information becomes irrelevant during the compounding, the stuff that needs to be there needs to be there, and so it stays in more spaces.  Also, I believe if you just keep adding sumti to a selbri, they remain attached, without really meaning anything.  Or maybe they mean something unspecified.  I don't really know how it works.  Try running a sentence with too many arguments through jbofi'e, and you'll see what I mean.

I don't know a thing about LLG processes.  Sorry.

mu'omi'e cuncuxnas.

On 8/10/05, Hal Fulton <hal9000@= hypermetrics.com> wrote:
1. Where is the latest lujvo.txt file? Or is it totally
superseded someh= ow by jbovlaste (which I really haven't
looked at yet)?

2. Also: = Why does this file reference things like x6 and x7?
I thought there were= never more than five normal sumti?

3. Finally: Is there a process in place for making minor
correct= ions to these files?


Thanks much,
Hal





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