From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 12 06:00:28 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E3Z98-0005N9-Q5 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:00:27 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E3Z92-0005N2-Vc for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:00:26 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so617833wra for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:00:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RAYwg+o62xnfh0ZoSP0rERYCsya32kVDvF1Wv75B/cSgGzR13PzS7qB50Kri5ez3YBVvaGUeyd1H+fooyLXt0iMPM/3HWyNjlWXOR833eUvtrcZWmBYUUgXLgxu19Cwy+k/sKUymG3AZ0SBuhq9choh313ii577StLMaWnY57Cg= Received: by 10.54.143.7 with SMTP id q7mr1855118wrd; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.68.12 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605081206004c5815ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:00:20 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: latest lujvo.txt file? In-Reply-To: <42FBF813.9050504@hypermetrics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <42FABC77.6020100@hypermetrics.com> <925d1756050811072360742c39@mail.gmail.com> <42FBF813.9050504@hypermetrics.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1686 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 8/11/05, Hal Fulton wrote: > Well, I want to get at the data myself so as to write one or more > tools of my own. So if I can't access the jbovlaste data easily, > I may just use an old noralujv.txt file. I think the data in jbovlaste is meant to be freely accessible. The reason it isn't is not so much that anyone is trying to hoard it but just that nobody has had the time to do the necessary work for putting it in a suitable format. But you may want to talk with Jay Kominek or Robin Powell about that, I'm just a user. noralujv.txt is really outdated compared with jbovlaste. > I thought that lujvo took the same sumti as > the rightmost gismu. Is that tanru? Or am I just wrong? :) That's tanru, yes. > > Well, I was thinking more along the lines of tiny little > changes like misplaced punctuation that make it harder to > parse the files correctly. In the case of jbovlaste, only the author of a definition can make changes to it. For minor things like that it is better to just let the author know about them so they can fix it rather than write a new almost identical definition yourself. > I'm not at the stage of wanting to create new lujvo, as I still > don't know what is already out there. Right. There are also a lot of already created lujvo that don't have a proper definition but just a keyword or a machine generated definition from some keywords. mu'o mi'e xorxes