From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 12 07:23:47 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E3aRn-0006lO-Ff for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:23:47 -0700 Received: from new.e-mol.com ([65.169.135.18] helo=mole.e-mol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1E3aRi-0006lH-Ur for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:23:47 -0700 Received: from mail.123.net (nobody@new.e-mol.com [65.169.135.18]) by mole.e-mol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j7CENfTd026769 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:23:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:23:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200508121423.j7CENfTd026769@mole.e-mol.com> To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org From: Matt Arnold Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hello! In-Reply-To: <20050812102918.B434.SERVANTODEHOMARO@yahoo.co.jp> References: <20050812102918.B434.SERVANTODEHOMARO@yahoo.co.jp> X-Priority: 3 X-From: mattarn@mail.123.net X-Originating-IP: [209.220.229.254] Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 1691 X-Approved-By: mattarn@123.net X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mattarn@123.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Servanto, I understood all of your English except for "I found a grammer and a grammer." Perhaps you mean that this book has lots of grammar but it has no vocabulary. When I read this book I was disappointed for that reason. A dictionary can be obtained at this site: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/latex/index.html I think xongos.djun.itciros. is the best way to say your name in Lojban. -Matt lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote: >Hello! > >I'm a Japanese Jojban beginner. I'm very poor at English, and >please put up with my strange English. > >I'm studying Jojban with the book "The COMPLETE Lojban Language" >(ISBN 0-9660283-0-9), but in this book I found a grammer and a >grammer. I cannot even say "How are you? I'm XXX... And fine, >thank you...". One of the reason is that this book is written >in English, therefore maybe I have misread it. If this book >would be written in Japanese... > >Today I have one question: How do I write my name in Lojban? > >Of course "Servanto de Homaro" is my pen name, my true name is > HONGOU Zyun'itirou >"HONGOU" is my family name and "Zyun'itirou" is my personal name. >And this latinization is Japanese style, in English style my >name is "Junichiro HONGO". Pay attention, > - "ou" in "HONGOU" and "Zyun'itirou" aren't same as English > "ou" but simply long vowels of "o". > - the apostrophe "'" between "Zyun" and "itirou" means a very > short pause (or a glottal stop): My name isn't > "Zyu-ni-ti-rou" but "Zyun i-ti-rou". > - "Zyun" is same as "Jun" in English, it isn't "zhun" in > some Slavic languages. > - "ti" is same as "chi" in English. > >Lojban has neither the character "H" nor any long vowels, and >all names must end with a consonant. How is the order of the >name elements? I must say "Zyun'itirou HONGOU" as in English >style. Must I use the English style instead of the Japanese >style? > >Which is the best way? Or other more better alternatives? > > 1. .ongous.djun.itcirous. > 2. .ongoos.djun.itciroos. > 3. .ongos.djun.itciros. > 4. .ongus.djun.itcirus. > 5. .ongus.jun.ikirus. > 6. xongous.djun.itcirous. > 7. xongoos.djun.itciroos. > 8. xongos.djun.itciros. > 9. xongus.djun.itcirus. > 10. xongus.jun.ikirus. > >{xon} isn't same as "hon", but I prefer to it rather than {on}. > >Thanking you in anticipation, > Zyun > ># Would you please point out any mistakes of English to me in ># this message. > >-- >Servanto de Homaro > _______________________________________________________ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com