From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 12 21:12:05 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 13 Aug 2005 09:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E3nNN-0000mq-4S for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:12:05 -0700 Received: from smtp22.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp ([202.93.85.137]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E3nNJ-0000mA-7W for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:12:04 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (servantodehomaro@60.236.206.9 with login) by smtp22.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp with SMTP; 13 Aug 2005 04:11:59 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:11:49 +0900 From: Servanto de Homaro To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hello! In-Reply-To: <42FC1E77.4000600@hypermetrics.com> References: <20050812102918.B434.SERVANTODEHOMARO@yahoo.co.jp> <42FC1E77.4000600@hypermetrics.com> Message-Id: <20050813120821.EB4B.SERVANTODEHOMARO@yahoo.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1707 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: ServantoDeHomaro@yahoo.co.jp Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Hello, Hal! I'm {xongos.djun.itciros.}, but it's too long! Please call me {djun.}. HF> A grammar and a grammar?? You have mistyped something surely. Yes, I must study Lojban grammar in this page and I must study Lojban grammar in that page... HF> This is my favorite link: HF> HF> http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/book1.html This is easier to understand than the Red Book. Thank you! HF> I have learned much more from this than from the red book. To me, HF> the red book is more like a reference than a tutorial. The YACC Grammar of Lojban is very interesting. Yes, the red book is a reference manual of Lojban's architecture. HF> But the capitalization of the family name is not done in Lojban. HF> Capital letters are rare, and usually only indicate stress on a HF> syllable where it would not normally be stressed (such as a name). Yes, I know. And Japanese language has no stress accent but a pitch accent. HF> There are other choices altogether. For example, you could take HF> the meaning of your name in your native language (if it has a HF> meaning) and translate it, then base the Lojban name on that. HF> HF> You could also make up a new name entirely. I considered something HF> like {sidbos.}, roughly, "the thinker." (If I am not too wrong.) But it's a only new handle, isn't it? ki'e .i co'omi'e .djun. -- Servanto de Homaro __________________________________ Save the earth http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ondanka/