From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Aug 13 22:24:59 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E4AzS-00073d-SN for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:24:58 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E4AzP-00073V-Gg for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:24:58 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i13so855517wra for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:24:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=urh/KXFi1W1dVJX5nuzhkSW8wIS/yVbY4pSxrkVoOjXHSUr+XMsxy6UU/nxz1akQn0Eaq0HV8eJMgb/OJAFom4mGqExGhc20MLOroxoTambSAB+AcrQ4c6gnjzqmzdqzGgTS05Ktipy+qeJxYsrjUTgNs+aemj+4BUB68ahaBz8= Received: by 10.54.34.61 with SMTP id h61mr2963344wrh; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.8 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ccdc75305081322247ee67611@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 01:24:54 -0400 From: "la cuncuxnas." To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban stuff In-Reply-To: <42FE7F86.70506@handgranat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_801_9690364.1123997094263" References: <5ccdc753050813120939457442@mail.gmail.com> <42FE7F86.70506@handgranat.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 1719 X-Approved-By: thatskotkid@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: thatskotkid@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_801_9690364.1123997094263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hah! Much in the fashion that multiplication by one is assumed to be hanging=20 around any number in math, zo'e is so often overlooked in my Lojban usage= =20 that I forget it can be included at will, as well as excluded. This is=20 something to consider! mu'omi'e cuncuxnas. On 8/13/05, Sunnan wrote: >=20 > la cuncuxnas. wrote: >=20 > > coi rodo > > > > Still working on Just So Stories on and off. I finished Lojban for > > Beginners, which tipped me off to some nice grammatical cleanups (like > > using the FA cmavo to pull the continuing dialogue trick (i.e. "But," > > he said, "it's too late.")), which in turn got me revising what I > > already had. Very near the beginning of The Beginning of the > > Armadillos, there's a bit about a Stickly-Prickly Hedgehog who eats > > "shelly snails and things." I used {lo calku cakcurnu} for "shelly > > snails," but the "and things" really threw me for a loop. Right now > > I've got {.e lo simsa} stuck in there. Is there a generic Lojban word > > for things? Stuff? Anything of that nature? >=20 >=20 > While the "and things" are logically superfluous, {ri citka lo calku > cakcurnu .e zo'e} comes to mind. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------=_Part_801_9690364.1123997094263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hah!

Much in the fashion that multiplication by one is assumed to be hanging around any number in math, zo'e is so often overlooked in my Lojban usage that I forget it can be included<= /span> at will, as well as excluded.  This is something to consider!
mu'omi'e cuncuxnas.

On 8/13/05, Sunnan <sunnan@handgranat.org> wrote:
la cuncuxnas. wrote:

> coi rodo
>
> Still working on = Just So Stories on and off.  I finished Lojban for
> Beginn= ers, which tipped me off to some nice grammatical cleanups (like
> us= ing the FA cmavo to pull the continuing dialogue trick ( i.e. "But,"
> he said, "it's too late.")), which = in turn got me revising what I
> already had.  Very near th= e beginning of The Beginning of the
> Armadillos, there's a bit about= a Stickly-Prickly Hedgehog who eats
> "shelly snails and things."  I used {lo calku = cakcurnu} for "shelly
> snails," but the "and things&q= uot; really threw me for a loop.  Right now
> I've got {.e = lo simsa} stuck in there.  Is there a generic Lojban word
> for things?  Stuff?  Anything of that nature?<= br>

While the "and things" are logically superfluous, {ri = citka lo calku
cakcurnu .e zo'e} comes to mind.





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