From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Aug 16 17:35:27 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E5Btu-00005Q-Rv for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:35:26 -0700 Received: from dionysos.oderland.com ([213.115.211.26]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1E5Btq-00005I-2u for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:35:26 -0700 Received: from c-c6f8e253.1210-16-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([83.226.248.198]) by dionysos.oderland.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1E5BuV-0002wZ-Nj for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:36:03 +0200 Message-ID: <430285A2.6040108@handgranat.org> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:32:34 +0200 From: Sunnan User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: alice questions References: <737b61f30508141443b15fcc7@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560508161657244f2bb8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560508161657244f2bb8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dionysos.oderland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - chain.digitalkingdom.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - handgranat.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1745 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners la xorxes. pu finti: >On 8/14/05, Chris Capel wrote: > > >>First, {bo}. When you see the sequence {i PU bo}, does that mean that >>bo is grouping the two bridi together, using the sense of the PU cmavo >>used? >> >> > >Yes, more generally any {i bo}. > > e'o ko jarco lo mupli > >>Third. In {i la'e di'u no'e ba'e mutce le ka cizra}, what kind of >>cadence might that be spoken with? Is stress usually put on {ba'e}, or >>on the next word? >> >> > >One theory is that you could/should read it in a monotone, the emphasis being >taken care of just by the presence of {ba'e}. I would emphasize the next word, >never {ba'e}. > > I would like to read it: "i LA'e DI'u NO'e BA'e MUTce le ka CIZra", with mutce as a lot more stressed than the other words. Sort of like a little melody. > > >>And in {leka} and {lenu}, is stress usually put on >>the first or second cmavo? >> >> > >I tend to stress the second if any, and don't usually write them together. > > I love writing them together and I like to put stress on both, though more on the second.