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From: Adam COOPER <adamgarrigus@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Multiple converstions?
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On 8/17/05, la cuncuxnas. <thatskotkid@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> coi rodo
>=20
> Is it possible to use multiple conversions within a bridi? I was recently=
=20
> trying to translate "I am the worst vegetarian ever." into Lojban (just i=
dly=20
> translating things that look interesting as I read them...) using {traji}=
. I=20
> kept stumbling with the word order, though, either making up clunky=20
> sentences with FA ({mi fi leka xlali cu traji fe lenu nalre'ucti}) or com=
ing=20
> just short of my goal with conversion ({leka xlali cu te traji lenu=20
> nalre'ucti ku mi}). Then I tried {mi leka xlali cu se te se traji lenu=20
> nalre'ucti}, just for kicks, and it seems to work just fine!


How about {o'a nai mi traji lo ka nalre'ucti ku lo ka mleca}?=20

Am I just deluding myself, or is this kind of verbal gymnastics acceptable=
=20
> Lojban?=20


It has always struck me as malglico to use the gismu-places to achieve an=
=20
analog to English word-order. But the practice is encouraged by usage notes=
=20
in the gismu list, so I s'pose I'm in the minority.=20

Also, I'm not sure whether I should be using {lenu nalre'ucti} or {leka=20
> nalre'ucti} there, since 'traji' asks for a property.


{leka}

mu'o mi'e adam

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On 8/17/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">la cuncuxnas.</b> &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:thatskotkid@gmail.com">thatskotkid@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<div><spa=
n class=3D"gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">

coi rodo<br>
<br>
Is it possible to use multiple conversions within a bridi?&nbsp; I was
recently trying to translate &quot;I am the worst vegetarian ever.&quot; in=
to
Lojban (just idly translating things that look interesting as I read
them...) using {traji}.&nbsp; I kept stumbling with the word order,
though, either making up clunky sentences with FA ({mi fi leka xlali cu
traji fe lenu nalre'ucti}) or coming just short of my goal with
conversion ({leka xlali cu te traji lenu nalre'ucti ku mi}).&nbsp; Then
I tried {mi leka xlali cu se te se traji lenu nalre'ucti}, just for
kicks, and it seems to work just fine!</blockquote><div><br>
How about {o'a nai mi traji lo ka nalre'ucti ku lo ka mleca}? <br>
</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&nbsp; =
Am I just deluding myself,
or is this kind of verbal gymnastics acceptable Lojban?&nbsp; </blockquote>=
<div><br>
It has always struck me as malglico to use the gismu-places to achieve
an analog to English word-order. But the practice is encouraged by
usage notes in the gismu list, so I s'pose I'm in the minority. <br>
</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Also, I=
'm
not sure whether I should be using {lenu nalre'ucti} or {leka
nalre'ucti} there, since 'traji' asks for a property.</blockquote><div><br>
{leka}<br>
<br>
mu'o mi'e adam<br>
</div><br></div>


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