From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 17 12:49:04 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E5TuK-00028m-CL for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:49:04 -0700 Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.14]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1E5TuG-00028S-9W for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:49:04 -0700 Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7HJmvs4004494; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:48:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j7HJmvRH004491; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:48:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: hive.cec.wustl.edu: adam owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:48:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "not this, but that" In-Reply-To: <200508171934.j7HJYYlc026507@mole.e-mol.com> Message-ID: References: <20050812102918.B434.SERVANTODEHOMARO@yahoo.co.jp> <200508121622.j7CGMCTd003289@mole.e-mol.com> <20050813152908.GA19670@castro.iodynamics.com> <200508171934.j7HJYYlc026507@mole.e-mol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1764 X-Approved-By: adam@pubcrawler.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Matt Arnold wrote: > I translated "It is not a thought that I leave behind me, but a heart made sweet with hunger and with thirst" as: > {.i le xanri ca na se cliva mi .i mi cliva le cnise'i poi lonu xagji je taske cupu galfi ke'a lo titla} > "A thought is not left by me. I leave a heart which hunger and thirst made into a sweet thing." > When I want to say {broda} not {ti} but {ta}, is there some kind of sumti connective and forethought connective for this? I want to use it with "a thought" and "a heart etcetera", to only say "me" and "leave" one time. mi cliva ge nai lo xrani gi lo cnise'i li'o or, (but I don't like afterthought negation nearly as much) mi cliva lo xrani na.e lo cnise'i li'o -- Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ There are always more fish in the sea, not as cute, nor as rich, but fish nevertheless. --From a fortune cookie