From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 17 16:57:36 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E5Xmq-0005vL-Hq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:57:36 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E5Xmk-0005vE-R9 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:57:36 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so254672wra for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:57:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AWKMGs19Wi3jJaaxeJkZ/CUPYPxiLfblL4VfgadO738mK+aTAhK9onBXIf39G3FXvpa75F9Wen1ZUDokyzKVCpsQyACruUosWLsRg11qDNqGbW6C9ahuzoqn0Sj1irX26WDlFDX20t+Jnxw0sx/8DMKIA6tqgvp477bIg/dmk1s= Received: by 10.54.112.7 with SMTP id k7mr797244wrc; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.68.12 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d1756050817165763af7123@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:57:28 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: web comics translated into Lojban In-Reply-To: <200508171850.j7HIoklc022184@mole.e-mol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <5ccdc7530508120938724eccf2@mail.gmail.com> <200508130340.j7D3eiTd013068@mole.e-mol.com> <42FDE2E5.7000308@handgranat.org> <200508171850.j7HIoklc022184@mole.e-mol.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1771 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 8/17/05, Matt Arnold wrote: > http://www.nemorathwald.com/pbflojban/pbflojban.htm "doi patfu .i pe'u ko ba catlu ni'a le mi ckana se ga'a [lo] pacycrida" {pe'u} is a vocative, so it will absorb the {ko}. You could just say: {pe'u patfu ko catlu ...} But {ni'a le mi ckana} would seem to say that the event of looking will occur under the bed. The father doesn't really need to go under the bed to look there. I'm not sure about {se ga'a} either. I would suggest something like: {pe'u patfu ko cipcta lo cnita be le mi ckana lo ka lo pacycrida cu zvati} Or shorter: {pe'u patfu ko cipcta le ckana cnita tu'a lo pacycrida} Where: cipcta = "x1 examines/checks x2 for property x3" mu'o mi'e xorxes