From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 18 14:26:37 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E5ruH-0000Rv-3o for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:26:37 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E5ruB-0000Ro-CI for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:26:36 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so484330wri for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:26:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NcYy64zMuvVqShRX3aiiJ7P7CIf1WzwJ2SsmZH2l07hQ/oXvjnKK2lrBqKlOt7EgFQklOICvOMbOcrlgWbhZ+cXQEF8CBwWzhKuXRbCRVfF4G6bKg+O7H6mHB586mat6vfYhhyp4CM05eOMI1+HoM1/Cr+cO7DOStve0V9Oj1e4= Received: by 10.54.57.10 with SMTP id f10mr1410340wra; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.8 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ccdc75305081814267978cb1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:26:29 -0400 From: "la cuncuxnas." To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: difference between seki'u and ja'e In-Reply-To: <737b61f3050818085632e22af5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8584_2514427.1124400389044" References: <737b61f3050818085632e22af5@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 1778 X-Approved-By: thatskotkid@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: thatskotkid@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_8584_2514427.1124400389044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline {seki'u} deals with reasons and justifications specifically. {ja'e}, based= =20 on {jalge}, deals with any kind of general result from a process or action,= =20 including physical causes, motivations, what have you. Or, rather, {seki'u}= =20 says that whatever happened was a justification for its sumti, while {ja'e}= =20 merely says that whatever happened was a result of its sumti. o'acu'imi'e cuncuxnas. On 8/18/05, Chris Capel wrote: >=20 > What's the difference between seki'u and ja'e? >=20 > Chris Capel > -- > "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it > like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" > -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------=_Part_8584_2514427.1124400389044 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline {seki'u} deals with reasons and justifications specifically.  {ja'e}, based on {jalge}, deals with any kind of general result from a process or action, including physical causes, motivations, what have you.  Or, rather, {seki'u} says that whatever happened was a justification for its sumti, while {ja'e} merely says that whatever happened was a result of its sumti.

o'acu'imi'e cuncuxnas.

On 8/18/05, = Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
What's the difference between seki'u and ja'e?

Chris Capel
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