From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 22 01:27:38 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E77ec-0006kn-D5 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:27:38 -0700 Received: from mailgw5.gedas.de ([139.1.44.13]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E77eZ-0006kf-S8 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:27:38 -0700 Received: from mailgw5.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7M8RXlI013258 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:27:33 +0200 Received: from GDDEBESAPP004.de.gedas-grp (gddebesapp004.de.gedas-grp [10.242.64.42]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7M8RXDD013252 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:27:33 +0200 Received: from blnsem08.de.gedas-grp ([139.1.84.54]) by GDDEBESAPP004.de.gedas-grp with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:27:33 +0200 Received: by blnsem08.de.gedas-grp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:27:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Newton, Philip" To: "'lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org'" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: [SPAM Verdacht] - Re: Why 16 - Bayesian Fi lter detected spam Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:27:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2005 08:27:33.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[57D3CFD0:01C5A6F3] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 1805 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners la snan cu cusku di'e > Speaking in hexadecimal with only ten numerals is annoying since > there'd be ambiguity between B5 {papa mu} and 1F {pa pamu}, so we > need at least sixteen. I see no ambiguity; {papa mu}, {pa pamu}, {papamu}, and {pa pa mu} all unambiguously mean "115". If you want to speak in hexadecimal with only ten numerals, use {pi'e}, just as you'd need to use, say, base-20 or base-60 or even other geeky pursuits such as base-64. You'd then have {papa pi'e mu} vs {pa pi'e pamu}. > As few as possible + at least sixteen -> sixteen. You still haven't given any reason for "at least sixteen" (as opposed to, say, "at least twenty"). My guess is that the originators were mathematical/comp.sci geeks and wanted to be able to speak hexadecimal without recourse to {pi'e}. mu'o mi'e .filip.