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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A question about se
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la .Zakyris. cu cusku di'e
> In that case, couldn't you say {le fanva barda} instead of {le barda  
> se fanva}? Or am I missing something here?

Yes -- {se} swaps place structures, not tanru components.

{le fanva barda} would be something like "The translating big thing" while
{le barda se fanva} would be something like "The big translated text".

Remember also that (unless I'm mistaken) a tanru has the place structure of
its last component, so a {fanva barda} is a kind of {barda} but a {barda se
fanva} is a kind of {se fanva}.

mu'o mi'e .filip.