From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 05 05:53:04 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ECGTA-00087A-2D for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:53:04 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ECGT4-00086r-E6 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:53:03 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so696652wri for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:52:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GuPlgjg3CqDimP8KduSKZqtkJ/UAO9LqyqG9dUDUGBzUSfnxToZAxxamDNECKToN79qZHqW7+cM31gzHC7QCcbQDQsMfZinGoRLq51oKk1cwM/HENQvqE8HsOA6bdkrBiQY956SpTbGBA0oJaB8BDiTw77f5rJ2r/BJsVFwgy8c= Received: by 10.54.33.27 with SMTP id g27mr3680352wrg; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.140.6 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 05:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:46:29 -0400 From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: just a hobby? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6792_31786679.1125924389418" References: <2d3df92a0509010707627a218@mail.gmail.com> <431A6D40.8000904@gulik.co.nz> <535730ee05090422533e3b20c7@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1952 X-Approved-By: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_6792_31786679.1125924389418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Where did he say cool? He said leet. There's a big difference. Do not read= =20 it to mean popular among the millions of average non-elites. Leet implies= =20 honor within an elite specialized geek crowd. -Matt On 9/5/05, Naomi K wrote: >=20 > Leet? Cool? i'd be living in a fantasy world if Lojban was the 'cool'=20 > langauge (not implying that the people who are currently doing Lojban are= =20 > NOT cool... :-P). 'Cool' is 'popular', 'in vogue', etc...definitely not= =20 > Lojban...yet (or am I being overly optimistic by adding the 'yet'? Ok, I'= ll=20 > stop analysing my email now...) >=20 > mi'e .nei,omis. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 9/5/05, Nora Kischer-Browne wrote: > >=20 > > Damnit, Michael, you stole my plan. :P > >=20 > > Except that I wouldn't write the AI, as that's somewhat inefficient, > > herculean, and messy--I'd grow it and train it, like you do kids. Or > > have the people buying these "electronic domestic servants" train them= =20 > > themselves and spare me the trouble. > >=20 > > And also, I would've established a sizeable harem for myself, > > consisting of a good portion of the people I'd've given small > > countries to, thereby effectively continuing to control those small=20 > > countries. > >=20 > > Oh, yeah. Lojban. I do it as a hobby, too. But also for "Whee, leet > > secret language!" reasons. And also for "I want to teach a class* in > > this someday!" > >=20 > > Also because all the cool kids are doing it.=20 > >=20 > > mi'e .noras. > >=20 > > * http://web.grinnell.edu/exco/ > >=20 > > On 9/3/05, Michael van der Gulik wrote: > > > HeliodoR wrote: > > > > > > > I must ask You guys about what Lojban exactly is for You. > > > > Is it only a hobby? An interesting experiment of languages and > > > > communication? Or do believe that the logical language has a future= ?=20 > >=20 > > > > I'm curious about the answers. > > > > > > I find Lojban interesting because it can be parsed by a computer and > > > potentially understood. One day, I plan to write a sentient artificia= l > > > intelligence (which one would talk to using Lojban...), which I will= =20 > > > then distribute across the world under the guise of electronic=20 > > domestic > > > servants and eventually attain world domination by exerting my will= =20 > > over > > > them. If you're nice to me, I might give you a small country :-).=20 > > > > > > Until then, I'm still trying to memorise all those gismu!! > > > > > > Michael. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > ------=_Part_6792_31786679.1125924389418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Where did he say cool? He said leet. There's a big difference. Do not read it to mean popular among the millions of average non-elites. Leet implies honor within an elite specialized geek crowd.
-Matt

On 9/5/05, Naomi K <alien.juxtaposition@gmail.com> wrote:
Leet? Cool? i'd be living in a fantasy world if Lojban was the 'cool' langauge (not implying that the people who are currently doing Lojban are NOT cool... :-P). 'Cool' is 'popular', 'in vogue', etc...definitely not Lojban...yet (or am I being overly optimistic by adding the 'yet'? Ok, I'll stop analysing my email now...)

mi'e .nei,omis.




On 9/5/05, Nora Kischer-Browne <a= zetidine@gmail.com > wrote:
Damnit, Michael, you stole my plan. :P

Except that I wouldn't write = the AI, as that's somewhat inefficient,
herculean, and messy--I'd grow i= t and train it, like you do kids. Or
have the people buying these "= electronic domestic servants" train them
themselves and spare me the trouble.

And also, I would've establ= ished a sizeable harem for myself,
consisting of a good portion of the p= eople I'd've given small
countries to, thereby effectively continuing to= control those small
countries.

Oh, yeah. Lojban. I do it as a hobby, too. But also f= or "Whee, leet
secret language!" reasons. And also for "I= want to teach a class* in
this someday!"

Also because all t= he cool kids are doing it.

mi'e .noras.

* htt= p://web.grinnell.edu/exco/

On 9/3/05, Michael van der Gulik <= mikevdg@gulik.co.nz> wrote:
> HeliodoR wrote:
>
> > I must ask You guys about what Lo= jban exactly is for You.
> > Is it only a hobby? An interesting ex= periment of languages and
> > communication? Or do believe that th= e logical language has a future?
> > I'm curious about the answers.
>
> I find Lojban = interesting because it can be parsed by a computer and
> potentially = understood. One day, I plan to write a sentient artificial
> intellig= ence (which one would talk to using Lojban...), which I will
> then distribute across the world under the guise of electronic dom= estic
> servants and eventually attain world domination by exerting m= y will over
> them. If you're nice to me, I might give you a small co= untry :-).
>
> Until then, I'm still trying to memorise all those gismu!!=
>
> Michael.
>
>
>
>





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