From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 06 08:02:41 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ECey9-0001IR-L6 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:02:41 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ECey5-0001IF-17 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:02:41 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so845188nzf for ; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:02:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gj3T38/bPzfBrTkUyLCcAOE8limtS3Gkf63dtabmQPIeSjbJHqTZVM307yARot1NUdn4ecqSULPAgTbrQKtH8qNDw3O1E4iYWe3KmEhFPT8XL5jVBIUES1iMFVqBQ2SAJAX1sxOgpJO7UCeyc/YFpaqz5JPHS5YScCiepCME49E= Received: by 10.37.20.32 with SMTP id x32mr452737nzi; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.6 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f305090608022f564788@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:02:35 -0500 From: Chris Capel To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: three-letter gismu? In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a050906072639f0c403@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <431D5994.8070009@gulik.co.nz> <2d3df92a050906072639f0c403@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 1990 X-Approved-By: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 9/6/05, HeliodoR wrote: > la maikyl. pu ciska di'e > > > coi rodo. > > > > This is an idea I had. I'm not proposing anything nor am I going to run > > off and design my own language quite yet :-). > > > > Was there ever a proposal to have a plain, regular 3-letter system for > > everything - gismu, rafsi and cmavo? > > > Not a bad idea. Though it some problematic points... > Having different forms for words - according to length and letter order - is > a useful tool > to give the listener/reader a hint what kind of word that might be. Not only this, but there's the problems involving lujvo. An experienced listener/reader will be able to pick out an unfamiliar lujvo only from the sounds/letters, based on the number and position of consonant clusters and such. And you can also pick out gismu in speech through their cadence--the emphasis is always on the second syllable, so if you hear a stressed syllable, it's likely (though practically, not always) in a brivla. > BTW, could someone tell me what > "English" means? The Angles, and some other group (the Brutes?) were an early inhabitant of the British Isles, thus Anglo-Saxon. So English is Angle + ish, if my folk etymology guessing has any merit. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet)