From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 15 23:11:37 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EG9Rh-0002lM-Bw for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:11:37 -0700 Received: from sp0064.sc0.cp.net ([64.97.136.64] helo=n054.sc0.cp.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EG9Rc-0002lE-Nl for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:11:37 -0700 Received: from jnorair (24.34.119.75) by n054.sc0.cp.net (7.0.038) (authenticated as mstack@alumni.princeton.edu) id 431F24430010D19E for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:11:28 +0000 Message-ID: <431F24430010D19E@n054.sc0.cp.net> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) From: "Matthew Stack" To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: podcast (was Newbie Intro) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:21:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <5ba3a3a5d3359a8e9d63b38e6b099ade@ghostgun.com> Thread-Index: AcW6YH0yzH1zHcY8RRSiqxanmhBTZAAJb6Qw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-archive-position: 2096 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mstack@alumni.princeton.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Wow. I was just thinking about that - Pimsleur Lojban. I've used Pimsleur to some success in French, but found that the overall method for inducing speech memory was tremendously useful. I would be a huge fan of supporting an effort to get a basic working vocabulary established through a program like this. Imagine: people would download mp3's that would take them through conversations in lojban, starting with introductory lessons and progressing to more advanced sentence construction techniques. This might be a fast, efficient way to tap the iPod fanbase, and to pull in hundreds of new active speakers. Matthew Stack mstack@alumni.princeton.edu www.mattstack.com C: 203-605-9681 W: 617-973-1290 -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org] On Behalf Of jm Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:44 PM To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] podcast (was Newbie Intro) Being a bit behind the times. I'm just starting to get into podcasts and I was looking around for a lojban one. Didn't find one so you'd be the first. The esperento-ists have at least one and we can let them win :^). As to the format I'd suggest, theme music with lojban lyrics. Beginners guide. Ever heard the Pimsluer foreign language courses? Something like that may be suitable. Although a single lesson tends to run about half an hour in length. articles or short readings in lojban preferable with some of the vocabulary from the beginners section. news and up comming events in lojban. closing. The idea is to move from intro/beginner to the more advance stuff to drag the listener deeper into an understanding of the language. As such, words introduced in earlier section should be echoed in later sections. I've place news last in the line up as reading newspapers is usually considered an advance topic in most language courses I've seen due to the large number of shortenings, uncommon words, and colloquialisms the media tend to use. Jeff. On 16/09/2005, at 8:30 AM, Zachary wrote: > Wow, this is officially more than awesome. A lojban podcast! > As for your questions: > I think the podcast should have multiple sections. One strictly in > lojban, one in English about lojban, and maybe a "Tips for Beginners" > section. > The opening theme music? Heck, let's find a musically inclined > lojbanist to write a short theme. Or if nothing else, a musician and a > lojbanist seperately. I'd say I'd like to try my hand at it, but > although I could do the music, my lojban is still awful. > Readings from translations into lojban and original lojban > compositions both would be awesome. > What would make me subscribe? The chance to hear lojban spoken! I > don't think there's another lojbanist within a couple hundred miles of > where I live, and none of my friends will touch another natural > language, let alone something as 'impractical' as a conlang. > > -ZAkyris > > > On Sep 15, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Matt Arnold wrote: > >> The first episode of the jbocradi podcast will not be tonight. I've >> put things in motion but I intend to prepare the transcript well. >> I'll now start accepting e-mails at matt.mattarn@gmail.com, to be >> read on the show. Who else is interested in listening to such a >> podcast? Are there skills you would like to bring to the production >> of it? Please express your opinions about what kind of content you >> want it to have. >> Should it be strictly spoken in Lojban? >> Or mostly English? >> Or repeating every statement in both languages? Or something in >> between? >> Any suggestions for the opening theme music? >> Would you like beginner lessons? >> Would you like world news headlines in Lojban? >> Would you like to hear the adventures of a xenoarcheologist >> exploring the advanced language inscribed on the walls of a >> subaquatic deathtrap built by an extinct alien civilization, which >> turns out to be Lojban? >> Would you like readings from Alice in Wonderland, The Prophet, or >> other texts? >> What would get you to subscribe? >> -epkat >> >> On 9/15/05, Christopher Zervic wrote: >>> >>> So we can look forward to your first podcast tonight? >>> >>> I've even cooked up a logo for you: >>> >>> http://images5.theimagehosting.com/lojbocradi.jpg >>> >>> >>> On 9/15/05, Christopher Zervic < zervic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 9/15/05, Matt Arnold < matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I'm extremely excited! >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher Zervic, Esq.