From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 17 00:45:49 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EGXOP-0000hs-7t for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:45:49 -0700 Received: from [69.26.161.194] (helo=panel.net-sentry.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1EGXOJ-0000hi-W8 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:45:48 -0700 Received: from [203.107.200.7] (helo=[203.107.200.7] ident=jewel) by panel.net-sentry.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EGXOI-0005Yf-OF for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:45:44 -0500 Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: podcast (pimsleur method) From: John Leuner To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: References: <5ba3a3a5d3359a8e9d63b38e6b099ade@ghostgun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <1126943116.6529.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:45:16 +0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - panel.net-sentry.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - chain.digitalkingdom.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pixie.co.za X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2107 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jewel@pixie.co.za Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners I read about the Pimsleur method a couple of weeks ago. The main point of Pimsleur material is that is carefully constructed using "Graduated Interval Recall". I searched the web for any papers or research about this model of memory retention but I only found hundreds of sites flogging Pimsleur language sets. Does anyone know more about this theory or have a link to some research? John Leuner On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 21:30, Christopher Zervic wrote: > I actually posess the entire Spanish Pimsleur series lessons 1-90. You > can probably find this or one of the other ones at Your Local Public > Library™. > > Pimsleur uses three voices, a native man, a native woman and a > narrator. Having the man and woman are somewhat necessary to > straighten out gender issues. The principles are anticipation and > repitition, each lesson introduces circa 10 new concepts, and hammers > them home. There is also a reading section (which for a language > posessing perfect orthographic mapping would be hardly necessary). > > A typical script would be something in he beginning would be > > Narrator: Let's say you meet a woman on the street. Say "Excuse me." > Listen and repeat. > Man: Perdón. (Pause) dón. (Pause) dón. (Pause) dón. (Pause) Perdón. > (Pause) Perdón. > Narrator: Say "Excuse me" > Man: Perdón. (Pause) Perdón. > Narrator: Ask her if she speaks English. Listen and repeat. > Man: ¿Habla Inglés? (Pause) ¿Habla Inglés? > Narrator: Do you speak English? > Man: ¿Habla Inglés? (Pause) glés (Pause) glés (Pause) Inglés (Pause) > Inglés. > Narrator: Do you speak English? > Man: ¿Habla Inglés? > > Little by little they introduce more phrases and each time Later on, > it might sound like this: > Narrator: Have you seen Maria? > Man: Escucha y repita: ¿He visto María? (Pause) visto (Pause) He > visto > Narrator: Have you seen Maria? > Man: ¿He visto María? > > and on and on... > > I don't know how well this would work with jbo, because Lojban as a > spoken language appears to be still a shade or two underripe. > > > On 9/16/05, Matt Arnold wrote: > On 9/15/05, jm wrote: > Beginners guide. Ever heard the Pimsluer foreign > language courses? > Something like that may be suitable. Although a single > lesson tends to > run about half an hour in length. > > I'm very interested in the Pimsleur method but I have no idea > what it's like. Do you have such a recording? Can you point me > to another podcast that uses this technique? Or can you > describe it? > -epkat > > > > > -- > Christopher Zervic, Esq.