From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 20 08:04:33 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EHjfd-0002Ky-9y for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:04:33 -0700 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EHjfQ-0002Kk-MZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:04:33 -0700 Received: from mailgate.denbridgemarine.com ([83.104.25.50]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EHjf5-000Cqh-0y; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:04:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA2B14D3DC4; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:03:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgate.denbridgemarine.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (helium [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10253-02; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:03:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from rhodium.elements (rhodium.elements [192.168.2.45]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6077114D3DC3; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:03:58 +0100 (BST) From: Colin Wright Organization: Denbridge Marine Ltd To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Test, and a request for help Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:03:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: lojban@solipsys.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509201603.56667.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at denbridgemarine.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2174 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners OK, I can't post from my other name because the system won't let me use the email address that I've set up, so I've registered again and I'll try this. No, this isn't just a test, there are lists specifically set up for that (thank you Robin).  This is a cry for help. I've tried and failed to set up SuperMemo, but it looks like complete overkill for what I want.  Inspired by its algorithm, however, I've created a Python script that does what I want. It needs feeding. I've got the huge input list of lojba/English words (thanks again Robin) but it's simply too big.  I need to get an initial vocabulary.  So what lojban words should a beginner learn first?     Numbers from 1 to 10     me, you, them, imperative, this, that     house, think, give, bridi negation,     like, have,     A few indicators What I need is for each person to take from their own personal active vocabulary just 3 to 5 words.  Ideally I'd like them in this form:     lojban:dunda:english:give     english:rain:lojban:carvi     english:never:lojban:ronai but anything will do.  Please, don't send me huge lists taken from the files available.  I have them.  I'm looking for the words that you know, that you have to hand/mind, that you think of using. Please send them to me at either:     lojban@solipsys     colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com Thanks kolin rait -- Dr C.D.Wright, Director of Innovation and Engineering Denbridge Marine Limited, Cammell Lairds Waterfront Park, Campbeltown Road, Birkenhead, Wirral, Merseyside, CH41 9HP. Tel: +44 (0)151 649 4080 Fax: +44 (0)870 051 8953 Mob: +44 (0)7980 57 22 96