From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 20 11:28:04 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EHmqX-0005Mb-MA for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:28:04 -0700 Received: from mra01.ch.as12513.net ([82.153.252.23]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EHmqK-0005M8-G6 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:28:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mra01.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DB928C7B0 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:27:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mra01.ch.as12513.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra01.ch.as12513.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16490-01-74 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:27:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from [82.152.43.82] (unknown [82.152.43.82]) by mra01.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09D928C7E1 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:27:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <43305496.5030207@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:27:34 +0000 From: Jon Reeves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Test, and a request for help References: <200509201603.56667.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> In-Reply-To: <200509201603.56667.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2180 X-Approved-By: jon@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jon@happyvalley.eclipse.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners If you look at the lojban Q and A text files for supermemo they are ordered so that the most used words are first in the list. I would just grab chunks of that - it would be pretty easy to convert the format into the one you show below Colin Wright wrote: >OK, I can't post from my other name because the system won't let me use the >email address that I've set up, so I've registered again and I'll try this. > >No, this isn't just a test, there are lists specifically set up for that >(thank you Robin). This is a cry for help. > >I've tried and failed to set up SuperMemo, but it looks like complete overkill >for what I want. Inspired by its algorithm, however, I've created a Python >script that does what I want. > >It needs feeding. > >I've got the huge input list of lojba/English words (thanks again Robin) but >it's simply too big. I need to get an initial vocabulary. So what lojban >words should a beginner learn first? > > Numbers from 1 to 10 > me, you, them, imperative, this, that > house, think, give, bridi negation, > like, have, > A few indicators > >What I need is for each person to take from their own personal active >vocabulary just 3 to 5 words. Ideally I'd like them in this form: > > lojban:dunda:english:give > english:rain:lojban:carvi > english:never:lojban:ronai > >but anything will do. Please, don't send me huge lists taken from the files >available. I have them. I'm looking for the words that you know, that you >have to hand/mind, that you think of using. > >Please send them to me at either: > > lojban@solipsys > colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com > >Thanks > > >kolin rait > >