From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 22 13:32:00 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EIXjb-0000A8-Um for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:32:00 -0700 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.182.203]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EIXjZ-00009o-3s for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:31:59 -0700 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id d4so36915nfe for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:31:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=c0+K2Uo3m8FfEtTJdAKe7CXPpp4c2r4K8qC201y6/ED3jElHa04z8WNQL8EmrkQ8ccyuG8FXRMSoxYrspcnMdlme7b19LFJiT8ln2VlM4fRblz7RQICpyDcdnzDuNV9M/v1HabCVGhQCiIxPwJmPXY5fezWtuEEvpfC0fNDMG2w= Received: by 10.48.236.19 with SMTP id j19mr126917nfh; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.240.17 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:31:54 +0100 From: Jack Wright To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: podcast (was Newbie Intro) In-Reply-To: <1127276408.8652.1.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3312_22356881.1127421114996" References: <20050916181616.GW8615@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d175605091616357086de4d@mail.gmail.com> <1126988331l.31250l.2l@ben> <1126995432l.31250l.5l@ben> <1127276408.8652.1.camel@localhost> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-archive-position: 2260 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jackrw@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_3312_22356881.1127421114996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi rodo .e ki'e sai la .epkat May I add my congratulations for the podcast - the first time I've heard spoken lojban. What a good sound! I thought the most effective part was the beginning, hearing "natural" lojban spoken at a normal speed - even though I didn't understand it all it gave me a good feel of the cadence. I did pick up the point of pronunciatio= n (I'm British), but I still thought the language sounded very elegant and clear - I think that can be resolved by inviting contributions (as you have= , epkat). If I may suggest for the future: I think we could have more conversational lojban - perhaps a few sentences each time in the form of a dialogue, presented bilingually. So contributions could be with people speaking as yo= u have in the podcast, with snippets of sentences, then repeated in lojban. Then perhaps to repeat in lojban without the English. We could then go through the vocab, perhaps without all the details of x1 etc., but emphasising the gismu themselves (just like in German one would probably learn a verb first time without the case that it governed - people can lear= n the rest in their other studies) mu'o mi'e djakis ------=_Part_3312_22356881.1127421114996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline coi rodo .e ki'e sai la .epkat

May I add my congratulations for the podcast - the first time I've heard sp= oken lojban.  What a good sound!

I thought the most effective part was the beginning, hearing "natural&= quot; lojban spoken at a normal speed - even though I didn't understand it all it gave me a good feel of the cadence.  I did pick up the point of pronunciation (I'm British), but I still thought the language sounded very elegant and clear - I think that can be resolved by inviting contributions (as you have, epkat).

If I may suggest for the future: I think we could have more conversational lojban - perhaps a few sentences each time in the form of a dialogue, presented bilingually.  So contributions could be with people speaking as you have in the podcast, with snippets of sentences, then repeated in lojban.  Then perhaps to repeat in lojban without the English.  We could then go through the vocab, perhaps without all the details of x1 etc., but emphasising the gismu themselves (just like in German one would probably learn a verb first time without the case that it governed - people can learn the rest in their other studies)

mu'o mi'e djakis
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