From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 22 19:54:05 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EIdhN-0005UL-Bt for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:54:05 -0700 Received: from qproxy.gmail.com ([72.14.204.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EIdhM-0005U5-4e for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:54:05 -0700 Received: by qproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q11so157379qbq for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BlLbNJPDQy2zrqxasr8paednp9u+njKx06yeE6UQMKpv4v2/0uF4e/zgi2TUoYsQLGraezEg7Ow3bhYyGYAdLm4blzcDvrr5FYoNI4DJQZ2aE28FQ8dL8vCWIqvqFCg5lZ/nMUezX5SnmXk8E95ZLQ4f8eyrWGonEV2XmtBtjs8= Received: by 10.65.83.6 with SMTP id k6mr210597qbl; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.16 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:54:02 -0400 From: Christopher Zervic To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gendered and gender-neutral language In-Reply-To: <43336307.8020301@handgranat.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6554_26570781.1127444042556" References: <43336307.8020301@handgranat.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-archive-position: 2271 X-Approved-By: zervic@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: zervic@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_6554_26570781.1127444042556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 9/22/05, Sunnan wrote: > > I was kind of > dissappointed upon finding mamta and patfu in the language, To me this just sounds ridiculous. However, if we are talking about a full-on test of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis using Lojban as a test language, then sure why not have one word for parent and calculate how it impacts the mini-jbopre. as well as > finding several slightly sexist or at least gender-specific examples in > _Lojban for beginners_. Such as what? For example, I look forward to writing non-sexist, sexually explicit > literature, something which is possible using lojban but few other > languages. > Sounds like a challenge. Are you "disappointed" that there are two separate Lojban words for genitals? -- Christopher Zervic, Esq. ------=_Part_6554_26570781.1127444042556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 9/22/05, Sunnan <sunnan@handgranat.org> wrote:
I was kind of
dissappointed upon finding mamta and patfu in the language= ,

To me this just sounds ridiculous.

However, if we are talking about a full-on test of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis using Lojban as a test language, then sure why not have one word for parent and calculate how it impacts the mini-jbopre.

as well= as
finding several slightly sexist or at least gender-specific examples= in
_Lojban for beginners_.

Such as what?

For example= , I look forward to writing non-sexist, sexually explicit
literature, so= mething which is possible using lojban but few other
languages.

Sounds like a challenge. Are you &= quot;disappointed" that there are two separate Lojban words for genita= ls?
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Christopher Zervic, Esq. ------=_Part_6554_26570781.1127444042556--