From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 24 06:38:41 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EJAEj-0006BQ-NM for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:38:41 -0700 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com ([195.54.107.73]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EJAEh-0006BJ-4a for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:38:41 -0700 Received: from [85.226.149.87] ([85.226.149.87] [85.226.149.87]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050924133834.XBZU11792.mxfep02.bredband.com@[85.226.149.87]> for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:38:34 +0200 Message-ID: <433554CD.3070206@handgranat.org> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:29:49 +0200 From: Sunnan User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gendered and gender-neutral language References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2295 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Ben Cook wrote: >>pinji, plibu, cinse and other words are available. The gender-specific >>words are useful for medical professionals. >> >>I'm aware that this strive for extreme "political correctness" might >>seem off-putting to some. If so, look at it as an art experiment. >>There's no offense intended. >> >> > >And Lojban does, in fact, have the terminology available to be perfectly >politically-correct, even if a few potentially politically-incorrect >gismu are present. None of the core language implies gender, just >several gismu. If these offend you, don't include it when you circulate >Lojban. If they're enough of an issue for you to present perfectly >politically-correct documents, I'm sure the community wouldn't be >terribly offended. Problem solved. ;) > > > I still circulate the complete gismu list, and I've written some non-PC works in lojban, too. (For example, I wouldn't call my translation of Karin Dreijer's political, satirical song lyric _The Cop_ particularly PC) I just like that lojban makes it so easy to be PC compared to the latin languages, and I wanted to express my admiration for that (and my preference for non-gender-specific language (prenu instead of ninmu, etc)). mi'e snan