From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 24 20:37:08 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EJNK8-0000KG-CN for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:37:08 -0700 Received: from miranda.org ([65.124.18.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EJNK7-0000K7-5Z for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:37:08 -0700 Received: (qmail 15119 invoked by uid 534); 24 Sep 2005 21:37:05 -0600 From: jkominek@miranda.org Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:37:05 -0600 To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Printed Materials Message-ID: <20050925033705.GY29546@miranda.org> References: <200509241039.17208.scottr@synthiotics.com> <2bee754c5c9ffce131a8911d84973255@digitalerection.com> <200509242020.07858.scottr@synthiotics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200509242020.07858.scottr@synthiotics.com> Accept-Language: jbo, en User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2311 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sat, Sep 24, 2005 at 08:20:07PM -0700, Scott wrote: > The dictionary is a pdf file which I cannot edit, so we're stuck > with the page size and margins that it's already formatted with. > That looks like 8.5x11, and perfect binding isn't available for that > size. I'm the one responsible for what the dictionary looks like. I chose 8.5x11 because I figured most people would be printing it out at home, on their printers. (Or at work. ;) I can produce it with whatever margins and dimensions you have a use for. Decide what you want (once), and let me know. > Since I have no control over the pdf file, it's possible (though > unlikely) that the format won't measure up, in which case this idea > dies on the vine. So I'll upload a version for them to check out, > which they say may take several days. Considering I have access to, and wrote the stuff which makes the PDF file in the first place, I can generate it to your specifications. Responding to other comments: Selling something in the public domain doesn't violate the spirit of it. Especially not in this case, when we knew exactly what the ramifications of public domainness would be. That said, it would put a smile on my face if a dollar or two made its way to the LLG per copy of this. Think of it as a group investment in getting the dictionary printed for real. The "planned changes" to the typography of the dictionary do not seriously affect the English version. But they're not likely to be completed any time soon, because they require Serious Dark TeX Voodoo to fix the last bugs. (Really. I have more than some small idea what I'm doing with (La)TeX, and I havn't been able to get it to work, so it is nontrivial.) Oh, and I'll be sad if it goes up for sale in a CafePress shop and the seller disappers and an old version is on sale for forever and ever. If you're going to sell it, make sure you keep in touch and keep your version up to date. -- Jay Kominek