From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 28 13:02:37 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EVaQu-000601-Tf for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:02:37 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EVaQr-0005zj-FG for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:02:36 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so263167wri for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aDutoK+Q+eILGXSj76SkslkVrofMrOMrACjeFl09vqsG0aGQ4QRmS5F1JZtL3YiIZ7FYVhs7/CnLk0yw8tJOa3oFq7l2eITmJ1/0Zj0fXSU7BVEU74jS6zLfvDx+LVfqsieN9aVg+9PQ0zJt2QCOnuRuuup2eSDBNxAXql1yyH0= Received: by 10.54.117.16 with SMTP id p16mr300031wrc; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560510281302o5c4a4752m5f8b7f77d39a025c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:02:31 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: translation In-Reply-To: <4361399B.90306@virgin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <4361399B.90306@virgin.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2425 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 10/27/05, Jessica wrote: > .i la reikis. tcesau je ponjo daksti .i le go'i cu sidju le xadni nejni > lezu'o gasnu le lanxe .e leza'i kanro > > Reiki is an ancient and Japanese anguish-stopper. It helps the bodily > energy bring about balance and healthiness. Why {tcesau je ponjo daksti} and not {tcesau je ponjo je daksti} or {tcesau ponjo je daksti} or {tcesau ponjo daksti}? It seems that logically either both {je}s or no {je} would make most sense, unless there is some reason for the special grouping. I too might tend to use a single {je} sometimes, but I don't know why. Also, {le za'i lanxe .e le za'i kanro} or {le za'i lanxe gi'e kanro} would seem to be more... balanced. :) mu'o mi'e xorxes