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la tomys cu cusku di'e
> not all the gismu set have their own rafsi...

Not all have three-letter rafsi; true.

However, all but brodV have four-letter rafsi, and all gismu have
five-letter final rafsi (as a degenerate case).

> I suppose it isn't statistically possible, but it's still 
> frustrating if one is to try to combine two gismu into a 
> lujvo that have no rafsi. Does this mean that certain 
> combinations are 'doomed' to their long-winded tanru only?

Well, you could use {zei}, but you could also use the four-letter rafsi,
e.g. {daklydansu} for "sack dance" (to pick two gismu more-or-less at
random) from {dakl-} (four-letter rafsi of {dakli} + -y- linking vowel +
{dansu} (five-letter "final rafsi" of {dansu}).

The corresponding zei-lujvo would be {dakli zei dansu}.

mu'o mi'e .filip.