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Black holes are xekri, but they are not kevna. Use of a gismu implies 
that all of its places exist:

kevna: x1 is a cavity/hole/hollow/cavern in x2

To be a kevna, a thing has to be a hole /in something/.

fe'omi'e JEsikas.