From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Nov 05 07:59:15 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EYQRm-0000YA-RS for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:59:15 -0800 Received: from mailgw6.gedas.de ([139.1.44.12]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EYQRk-0000Xy-K4 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:59:14 -0800 Received: from mailgw6.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw6.gedas.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA5FxA3n006085 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:59:10 +0100 Received: from blnsem08.de.gedas-grp (blnsem08.gedas.de [139.1.84.54]) by mailgw6.gedas.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA5FxAuN006080 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:59:10 +0100 Received: by blnsem08.de.gedas-grp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:59:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Newton, Philip" To: "'lojban-beginners@lojban.org'" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Black holes; are not they Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:59:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2500 X-Approved-By: Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > Black holes are xekri, but they are not kevna. Use of a gismu implies > that all of its places exist: > > kevna: x1 is a cavity/hole/hollow/cavern in x2 > > To be a kevna, a thing has to be a hole /in something/. In the "fabric of the universe"? mu'o mi'e .filip.