From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Nov 16 01:05:46 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EcJEd-0003bj-Bc for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:05:45 -0800 Received: from mail.velocitynet.com.au ([203.17.154.99]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EcJEU-0003bb-GV for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:05:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.velocitynet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C73A97C1AF for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:05:26 +1100 (EST) Received: from mail.velocitynet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.velocitynet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02416-03 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:05:25 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (5.175.9.210.velocitynet.com.au [210.9.175.5]) by mail.velocitynet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DF297C129 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:05:20 +1100 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <2426.85.226.150.186.1131716181.squirrel@handgranat.org> <2d3df92a0511110545k4c8c03fh386fb1303bf97619@mail.gmail.com> <26506d300511110630v4d7a206g@mail.gmail.com> <02410a5bdb733d081a8c2d8935e44730@ghostgun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <732f7c1ccd3dfdb602d9018e850eb1a3@ghostgun.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis From: jm Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Australian anthem Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:05:47 +1100 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at velocitynet.com.au X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2570 X-Approved-By: jeffm@ghostgun.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jeffm@ghostgun.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 16/11/2005, at 7:13 PM, Naomi K wrote: > > Does this mean your going to do a rendition of this for the next > jbocradi? And xiLI,odor (Heliodor) will do the hugarian hymn? Aaargh! Don't even think it. That's one way to guarantee a reduced audience! plus, I need more, much more practice. We'll have to rely on xiLI,odor then. So, xiLI,odor how about it? > .i'enaisai.  I have a terrible radio voice! And don't try to convice > me otherwise :o Having not heard it, it would be foolhardy to try. > When's the next edition of jbocradi coming out, though? I can't wait > to hear some more lojbanic material (with the exclusion of any > contributions from myself, zo'oru'e) > Talking of which can we hear the difference between 'k' and 'x' being covered? ".i la lojan. mo" describes it these as k an unvoiced velar stop (p 106) x an unvoiced velar fricative (p 106) and k /k/ keen (p17) x /kh/ loch (p18) While I can pronounce loch with a passable scottish accent and get the "ch" at the end. It would be useful to hear these two pronounced by others. Especially at the beginning and middle of words. mi'e jef.