From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Nov 16 16:39:34 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EcXoL-0000tD-Sq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:39:34 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com ([24.93.47.41] helo=ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EcXoK-0000t5-1m for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:39:33 -0800 Received: from hypermetrics.com (cpe-66-68-164-156.austin.res.rr.com [66.68.164.156]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jAH0dTe1004621 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:39:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <437BD141.3050606@hypermetrics.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:39:29 -0600 From: Hal Fulton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4.1) Gecko/20031114 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Schwa. References: <20051114112350.48230.qmail@web51506.mail.yahoo.com> <20051114151923.GA575@beverly.caldwell.out> <2d3df92a0511160541l8ce4d74y26c8edc556319ac3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0511160541l8ce4d74y26c8edc556319ac3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2581 X-Approved-By: hal9000@hypermetrics.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: hal9000@hypermetrics.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners HeliodoR wrote: > u in up > u in pun > > o in from > > a in delta > > "uh" when someoune says: "Uh, I don't know." > > > Those are {a} sounds. > Schwa is what You don't ever pronounce clearly. I don't think of the short u as being like a schwa except when it is very short. Therefore I'd pronounce the second syllable in "delta" as a schwa (except when I'm being precise) and the others as a short u. Hal