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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:41:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I've written a wikipedia article
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> On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 08:10:33AM +0100, sunnan@handgranat.org wrote:
> It seems that you ought to be writing for understandability on Wikipedia.
> Not intentionally complicating things.

I like my lojban sentences like I like my games - short and difficult. ;)

Seriously, maybe selpra is a bit unnecessary in this example but I think
selkei is fine since it's a sumti. And if one is fine, why not the other?
I know, it's circular reasoning.