From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 18 22:07:46 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EdLt4-00084Q-3K for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:07:46 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EdLt3-00084J-PZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:07:45 -0800 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:07:45 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Up-to-date definition of Lojban Message-ID: <20051119060745.GK23316@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <1003614874.20051119120342@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1003614874.20051119120342@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 2612 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 12:03:42PM +0600, Yanis Batura wrote: > While preparing the third and fourth modules for Parallel, I found > out (thanks to xorxes!) that the following sources now and then > contradict each other: > > 1) Lojban For Beginners (LFB) > > 2) The Complete Lojban Language (CLL) > > 3) Definitions from cmavo.txt and gismu.txt > > 4) Definitions from BPFK sections. Yes, and I really wish xorxes would stop talking about that to newbies. It's caused much more confusion than is useful. > I would like to know, what priority do these have, what overrides > what, and are there other items that also have legal effect on the > language? The CLL wins. The definitions from the cmavo and gismu list follow shortly after. The other two haven't been published yet. Until they are, they are irrelevant, and you can ignore them or not as you wish. Which of them you choose to pay attention to is your choice. > I think that this information is crucial for the beginners. Why is > it not published on the very first pages of Lojban tiki? Because 2 of the 4 sources you cited haven't been completed. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/