From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Nov 19 05:37:55 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 19 Nov 2005 05:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EdSug-0005v5-Vd for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 05:37:55 -0800 Received: from dionysos.oderland.com ([213.115.211.26]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.54) id 1EdSue-0005ux-DM for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 05:37:54 -0800 Received: from handgran by dionysos.oderland.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EdStm-0001Qr-Bz for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:36:58 +0100 Received: from 85.226.150.186 ([85.226.150.186]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user sunnan@handgranat.org) by handgranat.org with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:36:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <2277.85.226.150.186.1132407418.squirrel@handgranat.org> In-Reply-To: <20051119060745.GK23316@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <1003614874.20051119120342@mail.ru> <20051119060745.GK23316@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:36:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Up-to-date definition of Lojban From: sunnan@handgranat.org To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dionysos.oderland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lojban.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32082 32082] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - handgranat.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 2613 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > Yes, and I really wish xorxes would stop talking about that to > newbies. It's caused much more confusion than is useful. I feel frustrated with the amount of information that's deemed "not for beginners"; is there a particular treshhold where suddenly all this information dumps into your lap with a note "congrats, now learn this"? Another example that was mentioned on this list a couple of months ago was proper lujvo-making.